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Post by Oshha on Jun 24, 2015 19:40:38 GMT
Hey guys. About Beowulf, do you think being almost killed, losing an arm, having his back broken, having to kill over twenties copies of himself and Paladin (happened off-screen) and meeting his sister for the first time in over two years counts as a suitable point to level up (he's a Star Forge a level behind Paladin)?
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Post by AceOfSpade on Jun 24, 2015 19:47:22 GMT
From what I understand star forge leveling up take a long time, and it's not a response to one situation but rather to recurring situations so I'd say no... but if he keep getting chewed like this he'll certainly level up his physique.
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Post by Oshha on Jun 24, 2015 20:00:56 GMT
That's what I thought, but having looked back at things, Beowulf has been consistently losing to metahumans in fights. Grendel been him up like Ortho did (minus the missing arms and the burns) when he manifested, Fiona beat him up when she phased into his base, Sugar Brick beat him up, the Invisible Slasher beat him up, Ortho beat him up. The only ones he has win was against Cold Serve and Gynoid.
But then I feel this counts as "at appropriate points of your character’s development", so while Beowulf won't level up from this. Finding out that White Kitsune sold him out, waking up and finding he lost an arm, finding out his sister is a loyal member of the UH and finding himself under house arrest might be enough to tip him over the age mind you. If he just doesn't snap and go villain.
Edit: Does character's development been physical challenge or does it refer to actual character development?
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Post by Oshha on Jun 24, 2015 20:26:41 GMT
Having read what Tieshaunn wrote, I think that when a metahuman suffers extremely physical or mental stress/trauma comparative to their powers (usually takes months if not years), they level up their powers if they are Star Forge. The recurring situation refers to how their powers adapt (Beowulf keeps getting hurt so he would become tougher).
And don't forget, there has been a year between Beowulf's manifestation and his first level up and another year between the first level up and the second level up.
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Post by AceOfSpade on Jun 24, 2015 20:54:24 GMT
That would do, I think
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Post by Oshha on Jun 24, 2015 20:56:05 GMT
So we have decided that since Beowulf is still only Exemplar Tier and has recently been through a damn lot compared to how he spent the last two years that while he hasn't levelled up yet, he is near the point just needs another push or two over the edge to do so?
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Post by AceOfSpade on Jun 24, 2015 21:05:08 GMT
yeah, except if anybody else has any comment
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Post by Oshha on Jun 24, 2015 21:07:19 GMT
Okay.
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Post by tieshaunn on Jun 29, 2015 9:02:42 GMT
I don't wanna be a killjoy, but Beowulf as a gadgeteer was already a stretch - but Boadicea certainly shouldn't; a "mystical feel" does *not* go well with gadgeteering. Besides, even with her powers as is, she would NOT be considered a gadgeteer - she does not create gadgets, does not invent anything; she is simply a very specialised super-manufacturer. An exemplar-tier perception rating, perhaps - certainly not more. Also, you have way too many gadgeteers they're supposed to be among the rarest metahumans around. The four cities with the highest metahuman density in all of North America have - New Lennston: 3 (Brennus, Polymnia, Hotrod) - Chicago: 2 (Cartastrophy, Tin Can; the former inspired the latter) - Esperanza City: 2 (Tick Tock, Boom Boom) - New York City: 4 (Solace, Saint, Rocket Rage, Wasabi) Toronto, the mekka of gadgeteers, has a grand total of 5, the highest concentration of gadgeteers in the western hemisphere. 2 Gadgeteers with no connection between them, in such a small place? unlikely. Furthermore, regarding Gynoid - no one would ever even consider the question of AI, and certainly no one would discuss whether it's a gadget or a contrivance; a gadget is an item created by a gadgeteer; a contrivance an item created by a contriver. she is simply a person transformed into a non-human form by her power. as such, she is a chimaera. end of the story. If she can ACT like an AI - perhaps copy herself, or rewrite her "code", that STILL wouldn't make her a gadget and either way, the moment the "main instance" died, all others would fade along with her, as do all superpowers. she'd still be considered a human with a weird power, given a spawning rating for being able to spawn copies of herself also, she's a contriver. she CAN'T be a gadgeteer, and she can't be a gadget either; contriver/gadgeteer combos don't exist, contrivance/gadget combos blow up. if she don't blow up, then she's not a gadget, otherwise her own self-upgrades would tear her apart
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Post by tieshaunn on Jun 29, 2015 9:17:07 GMT
also, her "passive" powers would also trigger side effects if strained; say, normally, being tough and strong and fastwould not trigger it - but if she's straining her toughness by taking lots of hits, or trying to lift something in the upper range of her strength, or pushing her speed, that too would trigger the side effects of her nightmares; the difference between "passive" and active powers is simple that the former have a kind of "threshold" they have to cross first before things start getting nasty
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Post by Oshha on Jun 29, 2015 16:49:09 GMT
Oh for crying out loud! More RPG GM work (my D&D players want to fight a bunch of custom monster they expect me as the DM to come up). But thanks tieshaunn , I'll change Boadicea's powers to contriving then (I was going for one power set feeling like a mystical warrior while the other a more realistic version). Don't worry about being a kill joy, I'm more than happy to correct things to make them more realistic (I'm just trying my best to do things with what I know about the Brennusverse). As for Gynoid's powers, there was no question of game, but the inexperienced NPCs in-game didn't know about that as they lack the knowledge that we have out of game (they're all new the game and neither Beowulf or Snowfall have bothered to learn the basics outside of the stuff relating to them). For they knew, Gynoid could have easily been a gadget. Instead, I went for the approach that while it was basically contrivance, the original 'programming' would reassert itself like the human mind does when tampered with.
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Post by Oshha on Jun 29, 2015 16:55:14 GMT
I'll just change Boadicea's gadgeteering to contriving that produces a extremely lifelike results. As she has never tried and combine her work with a gadgeteer yet, she has yet to find out things will explode (which she will when she tries to do with Beowulf). Or I'll just copy what Tieshaunn said, it makes more sense than what I said and fits in better with what has already happened in the game. I would appreciate if you could come up with the proper way to describe that sort of power properly or otherwise I will just do myself (but I don't trust myself to get it right or least explain it properly).
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Post by tieshaunn on Jun 29, 2015 22:00:30 GMT
unrated. it doesn't factor into her combat stats, so to speak, it's not a threat to anyone, it won't be rated
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Post by Oshha on Jun 30, 2015 7:18:53 GMT
Okay. Thanks again for the information, it's hard to get things accurate when doing it in someone else's universe.
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Post by Oshha on Jul 1, 2015 20:37:34 GMT
Hey guys, have you guys been noticing how I been portraying Beowulf's cunning without right saying it (show don't tell)? I'm personally quite proud of it.
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